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KP: Hello and welcome to today's show, I'm Katy Pullinger and we are here because we've all got World Cup fever. I'm sure you do too and today we're actually going to be talking about World Cup songs. Now I don't know about you but there's a lot of songs that aren't really inspiring us all to really gear up and support our team but of course until now, because we are joined today by the England Support Band, oh yes! And they have thrown their hat into the ring and this is the song that they are going to be putting out there for us.
(Song plays)
ESB: You'll never walk alone,
Come on make us proud today,
We come in peace, not war,
All resistance melts away
When you hear our lions roar,
England, England, England!
Sing a round with me,
Sing out, sing out, sing out, sing out,
Come on, sing in Germany!
KP: Now if that sounds a little bit familiar that is, of course, because it is a cover of the James classic, ‘Sit Down' and it has been rewritten and of course, sung fabulously by Don Sebastiano sitting here.
DS: Grazia.
KP: Hello, hello, and I'm joined today by John and the rest of the band. John is the band leader and you're all here to give us all a little bit of a – yeah, bigging it up for the World Cup.
ESB: Keeping it real, aren't we.
J: Oh, aye! Keeping it up!
KP: Now if you would like to be able to download that track you can actually get it on www.pringleskeepyuppy.com, which you'll be able to see the link on your screens right now. So guys, so the James classic, it's something that we all know so instantly catchy and how on earth did you manage to get the cover on that and everything?
ESB: Well it was a lot of hard work, it was. I mean the reason it came about was because there was a gap in the market. There was no fans anthem out there so we thought, ‘Well, there's the opportunity' and got together with a few other guys. Bastycame along and before you know it, it's out there.
KP: You all got involved, because there are a lot of songs out there, there's about a hundred of them out there at the moment.
ESB: Mm, though it seems like this one's the only one that really captures the imagination.
KP: Exactly.
B: I mean, not blowing our own trumpets ...
ESB2: Hurray! Banging our own drum.
ESB3: You're not biased though, are you, really.
B: I'm a little biased but I've got to be honest with you, it's the only one that you can - it gets you going, doesn't it.
KP: Sing along to as the words go.
B: Yeah, it really does, yeah.
KP: Because I mean, you know, Embrace.
ESB: Ah-uuuuhhh!
KP: Yeah, great band, sorry. Not really catching it for everyone, are they.
B: I've not met one person who's gone, ‘Wow, that's a really great track'. I mean, no disrespect to them but it's not a rousing World Cup song, it just isn't.
KP: Exactly and to be honest with you I haven't really heard many others that make me go …
B: Well, there's that Tony geezer.
KP: Tony Christie, yes.
B: Well, yeah … he's … naah!
KP: He's doing alright, they've gone in at about number eleven.
B: Well they get lots of exposure because they've got loads of money and lots of everything and lots of whatever and they've had a lot of time as well. You know, we're a late entry but some of the best things take time, don't they.
KP: Absolutely, the best things come to those who wait but the great thing is, because it is so catchy it's going to be an instant hit straight away. We can all sing along and you know, go out there, download it, get it into the charts.
B: It's got some pedigree as well because Tim Booth, the writer from ‘James' who has done a good job on the lyrics, although it must be said he's a hard man to work with, he doesn't suffer fools and stuff and we're all saying, ‘No, no, just put that', ‘Do this/that' and he was like, ‘No, it's got to be true to the song.' And he's stuck by it but actually listening to it now, he was right.
KP: Right.
B: He was right, he got it right and it sounds really good.
KP: Brilliant, it does sound great. So John, will you introduce me to the rest of the band, or some of the band?
J: Yeah.
KP: There's loads of you, isn't there.
J: Well, first of all I'd like to say how fortunate we are to have Peter Crouch's brother actually singing for us.
B: Well, Crouchey Two. I've got a bit of Crouchey leg.
B:I can do that, Crouchey Two!
J: We've got Loz who's on trumpet, Hanky who's a drummer and Murray, who's a drummer as well.
KP: So you're obviously going to have your instruments to have to contend with when you actually go and watch these matches, I assume you're all going, yeah?
ESB: Yeah, yeah.
J: Well, we've not missed for ten years, Katy, home and away, so you know, why should this be any different?
KP: Brilliant, so you're all hard-core, never going to miss a trick. And are the team flying you out? How is it all going to work?
J: I wish! No.
KP: No, or is it all down to you and dedication?
J: Well, if people actually buy the record, it'll fund the trip so we're more than grateful for that.
KP: And we need you there.
J: Absolutely, yeah.
KP: You know, we need that support and you need the crowd singing along because it puts everyone in a good mood, doesn't it. It inspires everyone. People are going to feel nervous, you know, we're not sure whether we're going to have Rooney, all these things to think about. You need something to gear you up.
J: Well, we'll be there and we'll be inspiring them as well all the way but you know, we take a pride in paying or own way, if you like.
KP: But I mean, is there anyone to stop you from taking instruments in? Are you allowed? Can you come in with a big drum and a stick and a trumpet?
ESB: Stick it up my jumper.
KP: No one will notice. It's fine.
KP: No, we do actually have some questions coming in. Remember you can submit your questions as well but I do have one from Dave and he wants to know, ‘Which has been your favourite World Cup anthem of all time?'
ESB: Ooooh!
ESB: (Singing) Back home!
B: Well for me it's ‘Back Home'. I like ‘Back Home'.
J: Yeah, well for me anyway it's ‘The Great Escape'. Introduced it in '97 and it's stuck with the team ever since and it's actually been played on the terraces every game so that's the one.
ESB: It's the only chant sure to be sung, it's a great song.
J: Yeah.
KP: The one that everyone's going to know that they can just get stuck in.
ESB: Everyone around the world who hears that thinks of England.
KP: Another question for you, Ben wants to know, ‘Do you agree that ‘Three Lions' was the best football anthem?' Because I did love it, I've always loved it.
J: Best ever football record, yeah, yeah, we'll go with that.
B: Until now, John.
KP: Good point.
J: Basty's got a point and a vested interest.
B: Well, you know. Yeah, it's fantastic, that song.
J: But you've got to give credit where it's due. ‘Three Lions' was a superb song.
B: Yeah, hairs on the back of the neck …
KP: Catchy, got everyone going again, like, of course, yours.
JB: Do you know, I'd settle for - those ‘Three Lions', if we could just nip in next to it in the all time greatest tracks.
KP: Oh exactly, that would be great, that would be great. Well, I don't see why you shouldn't be, it's a really catchy song, it's just as catchy. So Trevor wants to know, ‘Can a good England anthem make or break our chances of the World Cup?'
B: Good question.
J: Yeah, it can.
KP: Very good question, yeah.
B: I think if you can unite, like ‘Three Lions' united the whole nation, got everyone together. We all believed in it, we all believed. Do you know what I mean? This track could do that as well I think.
J: It's about the twelfth man and any good football anthem and he's right, is Trevor. Any good football anthem makes a twelfth man and then you're looking at an extra bit of boost for the team which is what it's all about at the end of the day.
KP: Absolutely, well what I think is really nice about your song in particular is because it is by fans and it's not just by some band that's been brought in and asked to sing it.
ESB: It isn't for anything other than to sing, that's what it's about.
KP: Yeah.
J: And spur the team on.
KP: Do you think once they're on the pitch, they actually do hear anything else or have they got that tunnel vision? We think they can hear the drums beating?
J: Yeah they do.
ESB: Yeah, we've spoken to them, haven't we?
ESB2: We have, I mean, Ian Wright was very complimentary, it is like a twelfth man really.
J: Yeah and when we've had a chance to speak to the players they've all said, ‘Yeah, it absolutely works' even when things maybe aren't going so well and the crowd are still going, backing them, yeah.
KP: Yeah and they can look up, they see you guys are there.
J: Fill their chest and off they go again.
ESB: That's where it comes from, isn't it. It comes from the fans. If the fans are against them then …
KP: Oh, you'd never be against them. You're always going to be rooting for them.
ESB: Absolutely, of course, of course.
KP: Absolutely, now how did you guys all meet, how did it start? Where did it all come from?
J: Well …
KP: Ooh, sounds interesting.
B: Well I met them last week in Manchester.
KP: Not all that easy.
B: I've been a big fan all my life.
ESB: Naughty corner!
J: Well believe it or not thirteen years ago we started and I bought myself a bugle for a laugh for Christmas and took it to the game.
KP: As you do.
J: Yeah, as you do, and played it and the fans went mad and I played it a bit more and a bit more and we were watching Sheffield Wednesday against Everton, Sheffield Wednesday being our team and they gave us a call in a roundabout way but they gave us a call and said, ‘If you've got any lads we'll buy them some drums' and Trevor Francis was the manager at the time. He'd been over in Italy as a manager and seen what drums can do over there, what effect it has on the team. To cut a long story short we all sat on the Kop anyway at Hillsborough. I said to my mates, ‘How do you fancy this?' and ‘Oh yeah, go on, I'll have a go at that.' Loz had never blown a trumpet before.
L: No.
J: Murray had never banged a drum before so …
M: Still no better!
ESB: No, he's still as bad.
ESB: He's got his own sound.
M: It's raw.
J: Three years after that we're playing at Arsenal away, and Sheffield Wednesday have never beaten Arsenal at Highbury for about thirty five years, something like that
B: It's funny that, isn't it.
KP: Hang on; we've an Arsenal fan just here, don't we?
B: Sorry lads.
ESB: since '71, mate.
J: We couldn't hear him that night. He could hear us. We're winning one-nil …
J: So we're winning one-nil and we're going mad and unbeknown to us Glen Hoddle and David Davis from the FA are in the stand looking at the players obviously. Get the call next day, ‘Would you like to come and play for England?' So, yeah, of course we would!
ESB: A bit more training perhaps.
J: So of course, we went down and we didn't know how long it was going to last but this is ten years later so, you know …
KP: And you're still going but you've got like a really nice big age group as well. I mean is it just you all met each other while you were out and …
J: There's a couple older than us, there's Bram, isn't there, Emperor Bram. He's in his eighties. He's eighty two.
KP: Wow, so you're pretty much …
J: Oh, we're the younger end, yeah.
KP: Blimey, the World Cup since we won.
J: Because our new member, Bernie Clifton, who comes on his duck, he's getting up there anyway, isn't he. I don't know how old he is but …
ESB: I don't know how old Bernie is. Hold old do you think Bernie is?
J: He seems to have been around for fifty years in showbiz. You'd have seen him on the Amarillo video, you know, with his duck
KP: Yeah, yeah.
J: You're too young, Kate. That's the problem.
KP: Haha. How are you all enjoying celebrity status because you must be starting to get recognised and things now? At least when you're going to matches are people going, ‘Hey!'
ESB: Only if we've got a drum.
ESB: It's a bit of a giveaway, isn't it.
ESB2: I tried walking into Marks & Spencer's with a drum, it didn't work.
KP: I've got another question for you. Sean James wants to know, ‘What is it like recording songs and what do you have to do to be a songwriter/singer and how long does it take?'
ESB: Is that to us?
B: I'll take this one if I may. I'm a songwriter although I didn't write this song and it takes forever. It takes as long as it takes. You've got to just keep writing, keep working how to do it.
ESB: When we wrote ‘The Great Escape' it took us five minutes to do ‘Der'.
ESB: And ‘England' at the end of it!
J: It did, yeah. To write the lyrics of ‘Der, deh, der, duuuhh, deh, duh, duh … that's it, done, finished! So yeah, In Basty's world it might take a long time but in our world it's …
B: Well, I've been at it for years now. I'm forty-one now and I've been writing since I was fourteen.
J: Some come straight away, like that and most of ours come …
KP: They're coming pretty easily. Well listen, we're half way through
J: Crikey!
KP: I know, it's flying by, isn't it and we would love to get some more questions from you. Remember the little box on your screen where you can submit your name, where you're from and your question and remember you can download the track if you would like it, from www.pringleskeepyuppy.com. You could make it go to number one like Gnarls Barkley did, just from downloads alone. So it's up to you if you want to support these guys who are, of course, in turn supporting England.
B: I was reading in the thing though, the Pringles ‘Keepy Uppy' thing, I didn't realise you're meant to keep this thing up. It's not a ball, it's this.
KP: You are, the ‘keepy uppy' thing. You've got to do it; you've got to kick it from foot to foot.
ESB: You need a pair of sandals.
B: Oh, no way!
ESB2: Hooray! One, you've managed one. You need sandals.
B: Yeah, I've got sandals.
KP: If you think you're any good at that as well you can click on that link to Pringles ‘Keepy Uppy' you'll be able to see how you can compete for that game as well.
ESB: Yeah, we're going to be doing a bit of that in Germany.
ESB2: It's a fantastic competition by the way.
ESB3: It's a great competition.
B: Play with Ljungberg and Carlos, Gerard, the whole lot.
KP: Well, here is the single, bet you're really proud of this.
ESB: Not bad, yeah.
KP: Look at this, very, very smart. The ‘England Band', ‘Eng-er-lund, sing along with me.'
ESB: (Singing) Engerlund, Engerlund, Engerlund, sing along with me, sing out, sing out, sing out, sing out, come on! Sing in Germany.
B: There you go.
KP: Brilliant, that was flawless.
ESB: It was excellent!
KP: I've got another question for you now. ‘Where did the inspiration for the track come from because I heard a Chester-based record label brought it all together. Is that true?'
J: That's right. That'll be the Chester-based record label asking that question.
ESB: Great idea. They found a tune that everybody knew and they came up with the idea that it would go on the terraces.
ESB2: And it was a lot of hard work to …
ESB3: To get us to where we are.
ESB2: To get the track approved and everything else and we worked with Tim Booth and I know they've put a lot of hard work in, yeah.
KP: Well, we've got another one for you, we've got a load of questions to get through. ‘What has Chris Junior Rodgers got to do with the track? I saw his name on a promo copy. What is his and the record label's input into the track?' See, that's from him.
ESB: Never heard of that particular Chris Junior Rodgers.
J: I think he – somebody called Chris Junior Rodgers, he was the inspiration behind it, yeah, and we did the launch in Chester at one of his haunts in Chester and it really was.
ESB: It was me.
KP: Is this Rowan.
ESB: It's Rowan.
KP: Hi Rowan.
ESB: Hahah, hey-up, Ro.
KP: ‘Will you please read this out to my dad to tell him that I can see him.'
What do all your kids think? Well, not all your kids, if you've got kids, what do they think about it?
ESB: Nice one, Ro. Yeah, get the kettle on.
ESB: Oh Ro loves it. She comes to the matches sometimes and very well supports it, doesn't she?
ESB2: They love it.
ESB3: That were a bit serious.
ESB4: He's gone all emotional!
KP: Do you all play football as well?
ESB: Yes.
ESB2: Better than we do the drums.
ESB3: That's true.
KP: Do you play for local teams or just kickabouts with work or … ?
J: Anything to do with football is what we do. You know, we live, breathe, sleep it, so we should be playing five-a-side tonight.
ESB: We should be playing five-a-side.
J: Mick, if you're watching, I forgot to tell you, Mick, we're not coming.
KP: But talking of work, what are you going to do about work? Are whoever you work for quite happy for you to just be swanning off on a hopefully a long holiday anyway?
J: Holidays, happy is an understatement but … holidays.
KP: Yes.
J: No, we have to book the holiday time, we book the time and we go.
KP: But how do you book it when you don't know how long you're going to be?
J: That's the problem, that's the big problem.
B: Well, I think he'll carry on going on, he'll have to just wing it, won't he.
KP: Yeah.
B: He'll go all the way, just got to go all the way.
J: Well, we'll be there. It's just a case of holding back enough holidays and then trying to get the flights that match in right.
B: It's worth losing your job over if you get to the World Cup and we get to the Final.
KP: Yes.
B: You might get another job but you can't get the World Cup!
J: We could write a book about the excuses, that's for sure.
KP: I'm sure you could. We've got another question for you. Eric wants to know, ‘What other classic footie anthems do you play?'
J: Oh, well we do play, ‘Football's Coming Home.' We're on the Ball', we do that. Play. We've had a go at ‘Back Home' but it sort of runs out half way through, doesn't it.
ESB: We just do the ‘Back Home' bit and then stop because we don't know the rest.
ESB2: ‘The Great Escape' and ‘Three Lions'
J: ‘England ‘til I Die' and
B: We do ‘Steptoe and Son' as well.
J: Yeah, we do that. ‘Rule Britannia', We do the national anthem always.
KP: Why don't you give us a little bit of a sing-song of one of them, go on, choose one, give us a blast.
ESB: Of what? One that we play?
KP: Whatever you want?
B: One that you can drum to.
ESB: I'll just do that.
ESB: That's a great question.
J: He's the singer.
KP: You've suddenly all gone very shy.
ESB: It usually needs the crowd to sing.
(Singing) Engerlund, Engerlund, Engerlund, sing along with me.
B: That's all I do. That's all I can do now. I've forgotten how to do anything else and I was meant to do a songwriter night the other night. Sort of normal guitar-ey thing and I cancelled it because I've been just doing this for so long, there was so much going on and I'm just tuned totally into this now. That's all I've been doing for a month.
KP: Tell us how you got involved anyway because with a nationwide search for the singer?
B: Apparently they trawled the nation for a singer and Crouchey couldn't do it, he was busy and he said, ‘My brother, he's got silly glasses and he goes like that' …
ESB: Silly Basty!
B: And yeah, ooh, easy tiger! There's a five second delay.
ESB: That is his name though, isn't it.
B: Basty, short for Don Sebastiano, I got bullied at school for being called Don Sebastiano, hahah.
ESB: We need a John Smith to front it.
B: They phoned me up and said, ‘Can you do an audition?' so I went for an audition and they said, …
ESB: ‘That's enough!'
B: … ‘That's the voice.'
KP: ‘You're perfect!'
ESB: ‘That's bad enough for us!'
B: They said, ‘You're rubbish, get out of it!' They said they want somebody who can sing but not that well.
ESB: ‘You're the only one who's turned up, you'll do.'
KP: Peter wants to know …
ESB: Is it Peter Crouch?
KP: ‘… what are the ingredients for the perfect World Cup song?' What makes a good one?
B: Ooh, well they should start, ‘Engerlund, Engerlund …', well in my opinion anyway.
J: Simply one that the fans are going to sing to.
ESB: And that simply restricts most of them.
ESB2: That's the point that somebody can get hold of two lines and sing it and shout it with gusto and passion.
KP: Instantly recognisable so anyone can sing along.
ESB: That's the point really.
We play ‘The Great Escape' because people sing to it. They've tried other things and they don't and people say, ‘Why do you play that all the time?'
KP: Because you've tried and tested them and you know that it works.
J: Absolutely. If it's already in everybody's head, if it's a tune that everybody knows which, ‘The Great Escape' is then you're onto a winner.
KP: You've spotted the question, Hallo Jules, watching right now, says, ‘Tell Loz, he looks sexy.'
J: Aye, that's Loz.
KP: There you go, you look sexy, you're looking good!
ESB: That's his other half, Katy.
KP: Brilliant! Well I'm glad they were watching and supporting.
ESB2: Rose-tinted glasses.
J: Oh absolutely, we've got a lot of support. Everybody's behind it, the country's behind it.
ESB: Especially Loz's family.
ESB2: It's a big family.
KP: Exactly.
J: It is yeah.
L: It is a big family, you just wait and see.
KP: Now I just want to remind all of you that are watching that you can download the track from www.pringleskeepyuppy.com, that was launched today, wasn't it and of course, downloads are huge nowadays. Look what happened to Gnarls Barkley getting to number one with his track from downloads alone so hopefully, this can happen for you guys too.
B: Well this was number one in the Monster Mob Ringtones until very recently.
KP: Was it?
B: Yeah but ‘Three Lions' has just pipped it at the moment but it will …
KP: Oh, okay.
J: Get us back up there.
B: We could get back up there.
ESB: They're not even going to Germany, they're staying at home.
KP: No, You're going to be there, banging your drums.
J: As usual, as usual we will there.
KP: Now are we going to see you on the likes of ‘Top of the Pops' or ‘CD UK' or anything like that?
B: Well, if everyone downloads it.
J: We don't compromise on where we go. Germany – we'll be there if ‘Top of the Pops' want to come to us. Germany's more important.
KP: Well I think they should. They should follow you there and they should film you in the stands and …
J: We've got the BBC coming out for one of the games, we'll be on there.
KP: I've actually got a question from John coming through in a second about ‘Top of the Pops' – oh no, it's from Gill, sorry. ‘Do you think there will be a ‘Top of the Pops' appearance with passes for your lovely partners?'
ESB: Don't know.
KP: You've got to be up to get the freebies for the wives. I mean, we've got the footballer's wives, I'm sure they get a lot of freebies. It should be the same for you.
B: They should do a ‘Top of the Pops', which is purely World Cup songs.
KP: That's a very good idea. We need to see a Special, don't we?
B: Yeah, why don't they do a special ‘Top of the Pops', World Cup songs only and then vote and see which one the people like?
KP: Yeah, that's a very good … if anyone who's watching wants to pick that up.
B: I'll go out on a limb and say if we were on that, we'd win it.
J: It'll be like Eurovision you know, like a Eurovision contest.
KP: So when do you go? When are you flying out?
J: Saturday morning.
KP: Your bags all packed?
J: No.
KP: Not at all?
ESB: No. We've got plenty of time.
J: No, we don't do that until Saturday morning, we're all blokes! Katy, we're all blokes.
B: We're only going for a day, we don't need a bag.
KP: What do you need, a pair of shorts and an England top and that's you, all sorted.
ESB: Just a drum and a trumpet.
J: Passport and credit card, ticket, that's us finished. All blokes, no women going so we're not going to pack until five minutes before we leave, are we, that's the thing.
KP: Of course, it's the best way to do it. Have you checked all your passports to make sure they're all in date?
ESB: Yes, I checked mine last week.
KP: That's that awful sick feeling that you get on a holiday morning when you just think, ‘Oh, I'd better check that.'
ESB: There was one occasion where we got half way to an airport and Bryan had forgotten his, hadn't he.
KP: Oh no.
J: On the morning of the Poland – and he got it in the morning.
Br: I had to get it in the morning, we flew in the afternoon.
J: And now's a chance to thank that guy at …
Br: Yeah, thank you in the passport office.
ESB: Fast-tracked from ten years ago.
ESB: He's probably retired.
KP: We've got a lot of questions to squeeze in, we've only got five more minutes. ‘Has the track been released yet? Where can I buy it?' Well, have you not been listening? You can download it from today. From www.pringleskeepyuppy.com, and of course if you can do the old ‘Keepy Uppy' game and if you're wondering what on Earth is Keepy Uppy game, this poor attempt is Keepy Uppy.
B: I'll tell you what, the Pringles will not be edible by the time I've finished them.
ESB: You want one shoe to head it.
KP: Is that a header? Is that a Keepy Uppy header?
ESB: That is a head.
KP: Yeah, we've got another anonymous one so if we can keep your names on there we can say hallo. ‘It was on Radio One this morning with Chris Moyles, will it be getting more airplay on radio?' Good old Chris Moyles, because he's a big supporter, isn't he.
J: He is a big fan, yeah.
KP: And Radio One they can be quite snobby about what's on there, it's got to be good. If they don't want to play it they won't play it.
B: It is good. It is very good.
J: He kept coming back to it this morning, he kept playing a bit and then talking about it and coming back and doing the other bit and it got more airplay than everybody else.
KP: And what did he say about it? Did he love it?
B: He said it was slightly less rubbish than the other ones.
J: So that's good, yeah.
KP: That is actually really good.
B: In media-speak that's good.
ESB: Because it's playing on the terraces, he's bought into it because he knows it's going to be played.
KP: Exactly. He knows that if it's been on the terraces …
B: It's the real deal.
KP: Exactly, yeah, because it's for the fans, by the fans, supporting the team, it's what it needs.
J: Absolutely and he knows we're all good Yorkshiremen apart from Basty. He'll stand by us. He'll stand by us.
B: I'm a good north Londoner but you're all Sheffield Wednesday fans though, aren't you.
J: Yeah, yeah.
B: Well, what's wrong with Arsenal then, why don't you like us? What's the matter?
J: Nothing, nothing to do with Arsenal.
ESB: How long have you supported them?
KP: I'm going to stay very impartial on this one.
B: Since 1971, yeah I have, I've got a season ticket, ‘71/'72 was my first game, Coventry / Arsenal.
KP: We've got to get more questions in, Roland Garretty wants to know ‘Do you think England'll win?' Do ya? Do ya?
ESB: Of course.
J: Absolutely. We always think they're going to win.
ESB: They'll walk it this time.
B: Knock the Germans out in the semi-finals on penalties and then beat Argentina in the final.
ESB: Oh yes.
J: That'll do. That's the dream ticket.
ESB: An impossible dream ticket.
J: Seriously, we've got as good a chance as anybody.
KP: Well why not? We've got a strong team, hopefully if Rooney gets in there then it's going to be stronger. So we're looking at the first three matches that he's probably not going to be able to play in but possibly after that we might get him back in.
J: Well, we can only get stronger when he comes back.
ESB: Well, when you've got Crouchey who needs Rooney?
KP: It's a strong enough without him anyway, isn't it.
B: Well, we've got my brother, Crouchey. He's scores a hat-trick for fun. He's going to score five hat-tricks this World Cup.
J: He could afford to waste a penalty on Saturday, that's how good he is.
KP: Well, listen guys, we're nearly at the end. We've got about half a minute to go. Here is the CD. Of course you can download it from www.pringleskeepyuppy.com. We want to hear you sing it one more time before we go, come on.
(Singing) Engerlund, Engerlund, Engerlund, sing along with me, sing out, sing out, sing out, come on, sing in Germany.
(CD plays)
… You'll never walk alone,
Come on, make us proud today,
We come in peace, not war,
All resistance melts away
When you hear our lions roar,
England, England, England!
Sing a round with me,
Sing out, sing out, sing out, sing out,
Come on, sing in Germany!

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